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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:10:28 GMT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Governments of the World - To Ban or Not to ban]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[NSW government has invested in Phillip Morris (the tobbaco company). 
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I call it hypocritical, they tax Tobacco to the hilt--but they forget that those that smoke are only hurting themselves, they don't get in a car and kill someone and it also doesn't alter their brains so they get into fights etc--unlike Alcohol and/or drugs but they still have a needle exchange and shoot up rooms, seems a bit of a puzzle to me when these two cause more harm than any Tobacco product.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>Platycat</author>
	<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:52:27 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[> The tax revenue from tobaco and alcahol is roughly the equivalent of 2/3 the amount of money that goes into medicare and various other health and community services

I would like to know where you got your 2/3's number.  Opinion, anecdotal, researched, or "I read it on the internet so it must be true"?

By reducing and eliminating smoking you don't mention the number of smoke induced medical cases being treated would be reduced to essentially zero; families would not be unnecessarily losing loved ones early and having the traumatic experiences; those smoking tax payers would not become drains on the social purse through being unable to work and taking a dole; fewer butts would be on the ground since many if not most smokers have no more consideration for the environment than dog walkers who don't pick up (unscientific personal observation); reduced 2nd hand lung cancer; fewer fires from smoking in bed; etc, -- and the prospect of freeing beds for the queues of people not having self induced medical problems.

Tobacco is perhaps the only life threatening and addictive product, that is sanctioned by governments in the name of almighty taxes.  Very sad in reality.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>computerflyer</author>
	<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:25:48 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[A lot of good posts here but did anybody mention that the NSW government has invested in Phillip Morris (the tobbaco company). I call it sitting on the fence, tell people to quit. Lift the taxes levies and stamp duty then balance it off by selling the product.

If we had the right to not vote how many people would choose not to.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>whalan_boy</author>
	<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:28:33 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hey all,

I read this thread and it prompted me to become a member so that I could post a reply, the long and short of it is this, the government does not want you to quit smoking or drinking and for anyone out there that doesn't smoke or drink you don't want them to give up either.

The tax revenue from tobaco and alcahol is roughly the equivalent of 2/3 the amount of money that goes into medicare and various other health and community services. Should all the smokers and drinkers out there give up because the tax is to high these services would suffer beyond all imagination, cut to shreds with programs and practices thrown in the bin! Hmm doesn't sound right does it, no what would actually happen is the money would need to be raised elsewhere, raised taxes or the GST would go through the roof.

We can moan and grumble about smokers and drinkers all day long but as long as they keep footing the bill and follow the rules about where they can and can't do it then we should all smile and hold our breath as walk past them, safe in the knowledge that they just paid for my next elective surgery.

Don't be daft folks, keep the tax levels the same, keep on smoking i can't afford to pay for the bad habbits of other people!]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>Billythedog</author>
	<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:12:36 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Interesting how the Government has no qualms about raking in dollars in taxes from tobacco on the pretext it will discourage smokers from imbibing! They aren't silly.
Of course they understand that price increases will not force people to give up regardless of their financial situation. Of course they understand that cigarettes are addictive; of course they realise they are doing little about hard illegal drugs by merely labelling them " recreational drugs". They would much prefer to book someone for speeding than work the streets fixing the drug use problem- is easier revenue!Issues are never resolved by apportioning blame to the victim, rather than proffering support mechanisms to address the issue which isn't increasing the price of the drug. Nothing is ever simple! I guess for some they consider it one of the few pleasures of life. Ever noticed how it is the working class who always cops it in the neck? Also the ones who are least considered the least supported by programs and the least heard?
Re the fags: Heck- why not go cold turkey- its the only real option left- or was for us many years ago and it does work and costs nothing not even your health!]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>bronhill</author>
	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:27:36 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Gee dusty_rusty_2000 it would be fantastic to live in your perfect world where people don't don't suffer from the results of "self-inflicted" conditions. I've never been a smoker or a drinker but have problems related to an injury and am overweight. The injury must have been partly my fault as I chose to be on the road that day and being overweight would be so easily fixed if I just exercised some self-control right?

You can't always overgeneralise a problem or make assumptions. Certainly people should never start smoking to begin with but they also deserve help to stop doing it when they make the decision to quit. Addiction is a hard cycle to break. Not everyone has the strength of will to go cold turkey.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>Legless</author>
	<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:53:16 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[You are spot on tdierikx. Governments need to appear to be doing something about the issue, and we pay in the end. it goes round & round]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>geewhizz</author>
	<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:05:23 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I'd rather see all the Government funding go to a worthier cause than have it wasted on treating self inflicted illnesses. These extra dollars should be poured into finding a cure for diseases such as type 1 diabetes or cystic fybrosis, instead of it being wasted on those that choose to poison their bodies and the air around them.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>dusty_rusty_2000</author>
	<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 23:00:37 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[What about some registration.. like a line where you can quit and get help.. better for families.. =D>  =D>  =D>]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>samantha22</author>
	<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 21:49:31 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Amazing that they collect SO MUCH TAX and there is no direct benefit back to help smokers quit....]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>greatgats</author>
	<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:13:15 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA["..... the addict has to WANT to give up ....".
Absolutely true, even with the available medications.  I reckon though, the Government should apply the excise and the GST raised from the purchase of the legal product as a rebate  -  it's odd that so many addicts are amongst the poorer members of society  -  these meds are very costly; from memory about $43 for 105 pieces of gum (which would buy nearly four packets of cigarettes).]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33671</link>
	<author>snaic61</author>
	<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:21:12 GMT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Governments of the World - How the government operates...]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[i am aged pensioner ,i live from fortnight to fortnight , we own our home , that we paid for by buying only what we could afford i had my children ,No paid leave, No bonus and when we built our first cheap home No first home bonus we never had a chance to save much, and all i can see the current gov doing now, with these big first home bonus is letting young folk get into debt $21000.00  of the price of a lovely big home is nothing is it,would only be a couple of years interest]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33706</link>
	<author>muffinmum</author>
	<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:19:58 GMT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Governments of the World - Only In America....]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Glad I don't have to vote for the next USA president as neither do anything for me this time. McCain sounds like another Bush (whom I dislike intensely) & Obahma seems inexperienced & after the populist vote...he just doesn't strike me as presidential material. 

I can't wait for their election to be over as I'm so sick of hearing about it on our news every night.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=34334</link>
	<author>Krystal</author>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:14:36 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA["Yep, all 27 of them."

This is America.  And while most of the people are perfectly normal citizens, they seem to have a huge proportion of nutjobs.  Look at who they elected to run the country now, twice....]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=34334</link>
	<author>Danny_b</author>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:13:48 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA["If the Democrats thought they had the pro-life, moose-hunting female Alaskan vote stictched up..."

Yep, all 27 of them.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=34334</link>
	<author>buffyblue</author>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:32:41 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[At least she already has a shotgun handy for the wedding....

If the Democrats thought they had the pro-life, moose-hunting female Alaskan vote stictched up, boy are they in for a surprise come election day.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=34334</link>
	<author>shillard</author>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:31:53 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Pretty typical of politics really. The aim is to dig up as much dirt on the opposition as possible & I don't think America is unique in that one. 

From what I have read, Sarah Palin is opposed to sex education in schools & an advocate of abstinence before marriage. Her strong stance on that issue has just blown up in her face with her 17yo daughter pregnant.  It's good fodder for the media as it makes a mockery of her convictions.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=34334</link>
	<author>Krystal</author>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:38:42 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This week a certain woman named Sarah Palin burst onto the news scene as the running mate for US Republician presential nominee John McCain. As reported, she is the Governor of Alaska.

Strangely enough, little is known about her but more known about her daughter Bristol, who is 16 years old and pregnant (just like hundreds of thousands of 16 year olds across the globe - so what?).

US politics, media and the public have a lot to answer for if this is all that consumes them on the eve of a presidential election.

What a dumb country!]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=34334</link>
	<author>vp1959</author>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:41:21 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The government goes on about huge "surplus".. Is't that just another name for "profit"? And business wants "profit".]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33706</link>
	<author>Cas98</author>
	<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:44:29 GMT</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA["They may be slow and sometimes incompetent, but at least they're not trying to rip me off on top of it all."

More like, incompetent lots of times. Some of them rip you off quite a bit with various over the top fees and then provide very poor service. They are also ripping you off by being incompetent and inefficient because you pay them to do a better job.

Last week My wife and I each spent half an hour each on the phone with RTA to have a userid set up to check our driving record. The were supposed to send details to our email addresses. They didn't do. We had to go through the whole thing again yesterday. They said that it would be in our emails immediately. Still not there.

And I don't even want to talk about local government and the Councils.

So you can understand that right now I am not a big fan of anything government owned.]]></description>
	<link>http://www.notgoodenough.org:/viewtopic.php?f=583&amp;t=33706</link>
	<author>Croman</author>
	<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:59:26 GMT</pubDate>
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